1 00:00:09,950 --> 00:00:07,190 Secrets cover-ups and strange phenomena 2 00:00:12,950 --> 00:00:09,960 UFOs and ideas that challenge reality 3 00:00:14,570 --> 00:00:12,960 itself all these Mysteries all this time 4 00:00:17,090 --> 00:00:14,580 are we ever going to get to the bottom 5 00:00:19,730 --> 00:00:17,100 of these my name is George Knapp I dig 6 00:00:21,950 --> 00:00:19,740 into news stories that others can't or 7 00:00:23,630 --> 00:00:21,960 won't I'm Jeremy Corbell and for some 8 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:23,640 reason people tell me things they 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:25,680 probably shouldn't 10 00:00:32,330 --> 00:00:27,970 and this is weapons 11 00:00:35,090 --> 00:00:32,340 [Music] 12 00:00:36,889 --> 00:00:35,100 this is weaponized and this week we're 13 00:00:39,049 --> 00:00:36,899 going to talk about The Good the Bad and 14 00:00:40,729 --> 00:00:39,059 the Ugly I don't know Jeremy did you 15 00:00:43,130 --> 00:00:40,739 notice there was a little UFO Hearing in 16 00:00:45,170 --> 00:00:43,140 Washington this week I did notice there 17 00:00:46,790 --> 00:00:45,180 was a UFO Hearing in Washington this 18 00:00:49,010 --> 00:00:46,800 weekend you watched it I did I did I 19 00:00:50,869 --> 00:00:49,020 woke up you 7 30 waited 40 minutes and 20 00:00:52,610 --> 00:00:50,879 they played it it was great and your 21 00:00:55,910 --> 00:00:52,620 impressions to start with 22 00:00:58,490 --> 00:00:55,920 you know I had the immediate kind of 23 00:01:01,610 --> 00:00:58,500 split impression uh when I when I heard 24 00:01:02,810 --> 00:01:01,620 Dr Kirkpatrick talking because I know a 25 00:01:07,250 --> 00:01:02,820 lot of what's going on behind the scene 26 00:01:09,469 --> 00:01:07,260 as do you I was totally divided on one 27 00:01:11,750 --> 00:01:09,479 half I thought this is great this is 28 00:01:14,510 --> 00:01:11,760 progress this is the the way UFOs should 29 00:01:16,250 --> 00:01:14,520 be studied scientifically uh through 30 00:01:18,109 --> 00:01:16,260 systems analysts this is the way it 31 00:01:20,630 --> 00:01:18,119 should be studied but on the other hand 32 00:01:23,149 --> 00:01:20,640 I felt like so much was being excluded 33 00:01:25,370 --> 00:01:23,159 that I know that he has been informed 34 00:01:27,950 --> 00:01:25,380 about so I I was I was a mix of emotions 35 00:01:29,630 --> 00:01:27,960 you know you know it's it's UFO world so 36 00:01:31,550 --> 00:01:29,640 of course there are strong opinions all 37 00:01:33,710 --> 00:01:31,560 the way around you have the nihilists 38 00:01:36,050 --> 00:01:33,720 and Skeptics who say yeah this means 39 00:01:37,969 --> 00:01:36,060 nothing nothing will come of it it's a 40 00:01:40,789 --> 00:01:37,979 waste of time and then you have the 41 00:01:42,410 --> 00:01:40,799 hardcore UFO believers who think okay 42 00:01:44,270 --> 00:01:42,420 this is the start of disclosure 43 00:01:46,730 --> 00:01:44,280 something big is coming he's going to 44 00:01:48,530 --> 00:01:46,740 spill some beans and of course it's some 45 00:01:51,889 --> 00:01:48,540 Always Somewhere in Between right yeah 46 00:01:53,450 --> 00:01:51,899 it's not it's never what either side 47 00:01:56,030 --> 00:01:53,460 really thinks it's is going to be when 48 00:01:57,050 --> 00:01:56,040 when there's an extreme viewpoint but as 49 00:01:58,550 --> 00:01:57,060 long as we're moving in the right 50 00:02:00,350 --> 00:01:58,560 direction and that's what I'm trying to 51 00:02:02,389 --> 00:02:00,360 figure out if we are then I think it's 52 00:02:04,490 --> 00:02:02,399 good you know well I have to totally 53 00:02:06,410 --> 00:02:04,500 agree I mean the fact that the U.S 54 00:02:09,290 --> 00:02:06,420 Senate subcommittee has a hearing that 55 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:09,300 deals with UAP issues is a step forward 56 00:02:14,930 --> 00:02:12,959 I mean Senator gillibrand is she's a 57 00:02:18,050 --> 00:02:14,940 warrior uh you know it used to be Marco 58 00:02:20,449 --> 00:02:18,060 Rubio and Senator Warner who were really 59 00:02:22,010 --> 00:02:20,459 carrying the ball on this she's picked 60 00:02:24,530 --> 00:02:22,020 up the ball and is running with it and 61 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:24,540 this was her subcommittee she made some 62 00:02:28,729 --> 00:02:26,160 astonishing statements in that that 63 00:02:30,530 --> 00:02:28,739 opening remarks right that's right so 64 00:02:32,210 --> 00:02:30,540 they weren't there so you know a lot of 65 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:32,220 people were saying it was low attended 66 00:02:35,809 --> 00:02:34,080 and that kind of thing it wasn't the 67 00:02:37,970 --> 00:02:35,819 kind of hearing that we saw last time 68 00:02:39,650 --> 00:02:37,980 this was a check-in how are you doing do 69 00:02:41,809 --> 00:02:39,660 you have enough money do you have enough 70 00:02:43,369 --> 00:02:41,819 Authority so this was a totally 71 00:02:45,830 --> 00:02:43,379 different thing but to see Senator 72 00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:45,840 gillibrand there doing it man I I was 73 00:02:49,790 --> 00:02:47,280 super impressed with her she did the 74 00:02:52,009 --> 00:02:49,800 opening remarks three things she said 75 00:02:54,830 --> 00:02:52,019 really stuck with me so first thing she 76 00:02:58,490 --> 00:02:54,840 said is we have been informed that there 77 00:02:59,750 --> 00:02:58,500 are Advanced craft of Unknown Origin and 78 00:03:01,910 --> 00:02:59,760 she didn't say the words flying with 79 00:03:03,890 --> 00:03:01,920 impunity in our restricted airspace but 80 00:03:05,030 --> 00:03:03,900 they are so it was it was really cool to 81 00:03:07,250 --> 00:03:05,040 hear her say 82 00:03:10,070 --> 00:03:07,260 we know this now we know this to be true 83 00:03:11,869 --> 00:03:10,080 this is why we formed and funded Arrow 84 00:03:15,290 --> 00:03:11,879 she also said 85 00:03:18,530 --> 00:03:15,300 we don't know who are operating these 86 00:03:21,170 --> 00:03:18,540 vehicles we don't know who made them and 87 00:03:23,809 --> 00:03:21,180 we don't know their capabilities and 88 00:03:25,550 --> 00:03:23,819 that is is is really interesting because 89 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:25,560 it leads you towards intent we also 90 00:03:31,070 --> 00:03:27,840 don't know intent so she threw all of 91 00:03:33,710 --> 00:03:31,080 those down and kind of set the stage for 92 00:03:35,449 --> 00:03:33,720 the idea of why arrow is there why they 93 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:35,459 funded it why they're championing it and 94 00:03:39,710 --> 00:03:37,680 as you said she was there and she really 95 00:03:41,390 --> 00:03:39,720 threw down so she she's the pit bull for 96 00:03:43,309 --> 00:03:41,400 the UFO Community I appreciate it we 97 00:03:44,930 --> 00:03:43,319 should hear some of what she said I 98 00:03:46,729 --> 00:03:44,940 think we should play that clip and and 99 00:03:48,289 --> 00:03:46,739 give people a sense of if they didn't 100 00:03:51,410 --> 00:03:48,299 see the hearing to hear what she said 101 00:03:53,809 --> 00:03:51,420 how she set the tone a witness Dr Sean 102 00:03:55,729 --> 00:03:53,819 Kirkpatrick for testifying here and in 103 00:03:58,009 --> 00:03:55,739 today's earlier closed session Congress 104 00:03:59,390 --> 00:03:58,019 established this office in law to get to 105 00:04:01,850 --> 00:03:59,400 the bottom of the very serious problem 106 00:04:05,390 --> 00:04:01,860 of unidentified anomalous phenomenon or 107 00:04:07,490 --> 00:04:05,400 UAP in late 2017 media reports surfaced 108 00:04:09,589 --> 00:04:07,500 about activity set in motion by the late 109 00:04:11,570 --> 00:04:09,599 long-serving Majority Leader Senator 110 00:04:13,190 --> 00:04:11,580 Harry Reid more than a decade ago we 111 00:04:14,869 --> 00:04:13,200 learned that there was strong evidence 112 00:04:16,009 --> 00:04:14,879 that advanced technology reflected in 113 00:04:18,050 --> 00:04:16,019 the features and performance 114 00:04:20,330 --> 00:04:18,060 characteristics of many objects observed 115 00:04:22,129 --> 00:04:20,340 by our highly trained service members 116 00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:22,139 operating top of the line military 117 00:04:26,030 --> 00:04:24,240 equipment we learned that for the at 118 00:04:28,070 --> 00:04:26,040 least the past eight years military 119 00:04:30,350 --> 00:04:28,080 Pilots frequently encountered unknown 120 00:04:32,030 --> 00:04:30,360 objects in controlled airspace off both 121 00:04:34,129 --> 00:04:32,040 the east and west coast across the 122 00:04:36,830 --> 00:04:34,139 continental United States in test and 123 00:04:38,930 --> 00:04:36,840 training areas and ranges we don't know 124 00:04:40,969 --> 00:04:38,940 where they are they come from who made 125 00:04:43,270 --> 00:04:40,979 them or how they operate but because of 126 00:04:46,249 --> 00:04:43,280 the UFO stigma the response has been 127 00:04:48,170 --> 00:04:46,259 irresponsibly anemic and slow UAP are 128 00:04:50,270 --> 00:04:48,180 frequently observed flying in extremely 129 00:04:51,950 --> 00:04:50,280 high or very low speeds and come in 130 00:04:54,310 --> 00:04:51,960 various sizes and shapes during the 131 00:04:57,170 --> 00:04:54,320 recent shootdowns over North America DOD 132 00:04:58,909 --> 00:04:57,180 disclosed that filters on radar systems 133 00:05:00,650 --> 00:04:58,919 were adjusted to allow for detection and 134 00:05:02,510 --> 00:05:00,660 tracking of diverse sets of objects for 135 00:05:04,249 --> 00:05:02,520 the first time while opening the 136 00:05:06,770 --> 00:05:04,259 aperture can overload the real-time 137 00:05:08,510 --> 00:05:06,780 analytic process we cannot keep turning 138 00:05:10,969 --> 00:05:08,520 a blind eye to surveillance data that is 139 00:05:12,890 --> 00:05:10,979 critical to detecting attracting UAP a 140 00:05:16,070 --> 00:05:12,900 couple of thoughts on this one one is 141 00:05:17,930 --> 00:05:16,080 she has obviously been briefed in ways 142 00:05:20,450 --> 00:05:17,940 that have not been made public 143 00:05:22,430 --> 00:05:20,460 um you know we're going to get into what 144 00:05:24,290 --> 00:05:22,440 she learned in this hearing but she's 145 00:05:26,570 --> 00:05:24,300 had some briefings we know people have 146 00:05:28,850 --> 00:05:26,580 talked to her she believes that this is 147 00:05:31,189 --> 00:05:28,860 real and it's legit second thought I 148 00:05:34,070 --> 00:05:31,199 have is you know this is politically 149 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:34,080 risky there's no way that you know how 150 00:05:38,330 --> 00:05:36,000 this is going to play out but she's 151 00:05:39,950 --> 00:05:38,340 going full bore on this regardless we 152 00:05:42,770 --> 00:05:39,960 know what happened to Hillary Clinton I 153 00:05:46,189 --> 00:05:42,780 mean it was part of her campaign to be 154 00:05:49,550 --> 00:05:46,199 president as she wanted to uh push for 155 00:05:51,170 --> 00:05:49,560 UFO transparency she didn't win so you 156 00:05:53,029 --> 00:05:51,180 know whether or not this is a good 157 00:05:55,490 --> 00:05:53,039 political move I don't think Senator 158 00:05:57,890 --> 00:05:55,500 gillibrand is is putting that into the 159 00:06:00,290 --> 00:05:57,900 uh evaluation of whether she should go 160 00:06:03,050 --> 00:06:00,300 forward or not but but it's also it's 161 00:06:04,730 --> 00:06:03,060 safer now right because you're you know 162 00:06:06,590 --> 00:06:04,740 President Clinton everything they were 163 00:06:08,029 --> 00:06:06,600 trying to do with this UFO topic is kind 164 00:06:10,010 --> 00:06:08,039 of crack open the books right now 165 00:06:12,050 --> 00:06:10,020 they're saying we have a safety of 166 00:06:14,510 --> 00:06:12,060 flight issue right we have an issue 167 00:06:17,090 --> 00:06:14,520 where there are near misses we have an 168 00:06:19,969 --> 00:06:17,100 issue where Pilots are seeing these 169 00:06:22,430 --> 00:06:19,979 performing ways that are unique and we 170 00:06:24,950 --> 00:06:22,440 need this study so it's it's less 171 00:06:28,309 --> 00:06:24,960 polarized in a way it's transformed to 172 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:28,319 UAP it's the idea that we need to have 173 00:06:33,290 --> 00:06:31,440 360 degree error dominance at all 174 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:33,300 Aerospace and sea dominance that's the 175 00:06:37,790 --> 00:06:35,520 goal right so in in a political sense 176 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:37,800 it's kind of interesting the way it's 177 00:06:41,870 --> 00:06:40,080 transformed where it is just simply a 178 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:41,880 safety of flight issue and finding out 179 00:06:46,850 --> 00:06:43,680 if adversarial Nations have this 180 00:06:49,309 --> 00:06:46,860 technology I I was thrilled to see a 181 00:06:51,529 --> 00:06:49,319 Nevada senator Jackie Rosen jump into 182 00:06:53,629 --> 00:06:51,539 the mix I I did not expect it you know 183 00:06:55,189 --> 00:06:53,639 of course Nevada Senators historically 184 00:06:57,710 --> 00:06:55,199 have had an interest in this topic 185 00:06:59,809 --> 00:06:57,720 Senator Harry Reid is one of them before 186 00:07:01,969 --> 00:06:59,819 him Senator Howard Cannon who was a big 187 00:07:04,670 --> 00:07:01,979 proponent of Nellis Air Force Base he 188 00:07:06,409 --> 00:07:04,680 was a supporter of area 51 he was deeply 189 00:07:08,689 --> 00:07:06,419 interested in this topic something we'll 190 00:07:10,730 --> 00:07:08,699 discuss at some point but Senator Rosen 191 00:07:13,309 --> 00:07:10,740 was a surprise to me of course the 192 00:07:16,249 --> 00:07:13,319 primary witness was Dr Sean Kirkpatrick 193 00:07:17,809 --> 00:07:16,259 of Arrow but Senator Rosen asked a 194 00:07:19,550 --> 00:07:17,819 pretty good question or two I want to 195 00:07:21,830 --> 00:07:19,560 give her a shout out and use that clip 196 00:07:25,010 --> 00:07:21,840 if we can I want to talk about the 197 00:07:26,510 --> 00:07:25,020 impact of uaps on Aviation safety one of 198 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:26,520 my first concerns is really about the 199 00:07:31,129 --> 00:07:29,280 safety of Nevada's military Aviator 200 00:07:33,710 --> 00:07:31,139 so we have Airmen stationed at Nellis 201 00:07:35,990 --> 00:07:33,720 Air Force Base Naval aviators flying at 202 00:07:38,589 --> 00:07:36,000 Naval Air Station Fallon and service 203 00:07:41,029 --> 00:07:38,599 members across from across the world 204 00:07:42,710 --> 00:07:41,039 training at the Nevada test and training 205 00:07:44,629 --> 00:07:42,720 range I know you know all this and 206 00:07:47,629 --> 00:07:44,639 unfortunately the existence of advanced 207 00:07:50,510 --> 00:07:47,639 uaps in the U.S airspace and over U.S 208 00:07:51,830 --> 00:07:50,520 military installations not a new 209 00:07:53,749 --> 00:07:51,840 phenomenon 210 00:07:58,010 --> 00:07:53,759 the Navy's officially acknowledged that 211 00:08:00,710 --> 00:07:58,020 between 2004 and 2021 11 near misses 212 00:08:03,350 --> 00:08:00,720 occurred involving uaps it required 213 00:08:05,570 --> 00:08:03,360 pilot action and follow-up reports so 214 00:08:07,430 --> 00:08:05,580 there's been a lot of things that have 215 00:08:09,469 --> 00:08:07,440 you know kind of gone out since Dr 216 00:08:12,110 --> 00:08:09,479 Kirkpatrick has kind of testified in 217 00:08:13,490 --> 00:08:12,120 front of people you know he did say a 218 00:08:15,890 --> 00:08:13,500 bunch of really interesting stuff the 219 00:08:17,689 --> 00:08:15,900 one that kind of looms is he says we 220 00:08:19,670 --> 00:08:17,699 have no evidence that this is 221 00:08:21,950 --> 00:08:19,680 extraterrestrial or from off-world 222 00:08:23,930 --> 00:08:21,960 vehicles I mean he really chose his 223 00:08:27,290 --> 00:08:23,940 words to try to really put everybody 224 00:08:28,249 --> 00:08:27,300 down you know kind of at ease saying we 225 00:08:29,990 --> 00:08:28,259 have no evidence this is 226 00:08:32,449 --> 00:08:30,000 extraterrestrial I've heard a lot of 227 00:08:34,010 --> 00:08:32,459 people say that's it case closed the UFO 228 00:08:37,250 --> 00:08:34,020 discussion is over right that's 229 00:08:39,529 --> 00:08:37,260 ridiculous so there's a couple things I 230 00:08:41,870 --> 00:08:39,539 take from that one is well 231 00:08:43,730 --> 00:08:41,880 do you have evidence that it's not and 232 00:08:44,690 --> 00:08:43,740 so so what is you know that that's kind 233 00:08:47,389 --> 00:08:44,700 of the thing a lot of people have been 234 00:08:49,970 --> 00:08:47,399 saying is to say something is unresolved 235 00:08:51,949 --> 00:08:49,980 and to keep the doors open to studying 236 00:08:53,329 --> 00:08:51,959 what it is it was interesting he chose 237 00:08:55,490 --> 00:08:53,339 those words what do you make of that 238 00:08:57,889 --> 00:08:55,500 when he says we have no evidence that 239 00:09:00,410 --> 00:08:57,899 it's extraterrestrial I was surprised 240 00:09:02,269 --> 00:09:00,420 that he went as far as he did because we 241 00:09:04,009 --> 00:09:02,279 happen to know some of what he has been 242 00:09:06,170 --> 00:09:04,019 told behind closed doors 243 00:09:08,509 --> 00:09:06,180 he acknowledges there have been 24 244 00:09:10,970 --> 00:09:08,519 different Witnesses whistleblowers 245 00:09:12,829 --> 00:09:10,980 that's that's the I'm using air quotes 246 00:09:15,050 --> 00:09:12,839 on that whistleblowers who've come 247 00:09:17,150 --> 00:09:15,060 forward and have met with him and his 248 00:09:19,070 --> 00:09:17,160 office and have given testimony we'll 249 00:09:20,690 --> 00:09:19,080 get into the specifics of what some of 250 00:09:22,430 --> 00:09:20,700 those people have told them but I was 251 00:09:25,670 --> 00:09:22,440 surprised that he considers none of that 252 00:09:27,769 --> 00:09:25,680 to be evidence either a he doesn't 253 00:09:30,650 --> 00:09:27,779 consider their testimony to be evidence 254 00:09:33,829 --> 00:09:30,660 B he doesn't consider it to be credible 255 00:09:36,410 --> 00:09:33,839 testimony or C his office has not 256 00:09:39,170 --> 00:09:36,420 evaluated it yet I mean are you the same 257 00:09:40,970 --> 00:09:39,180 spot well I don't think that he has the 258 00:09:43,009 --> 00:09:40,980 right authorities yet to properly 259 00:09:46,250 --> 00:09:43,019 investigate what has been shared with 260 00:09:48,170 --> 00:09:46,260 him and as you've mentioned so we are in 261 00:09:51,290 --> 00:09:48,180 contact with numerous individuals that 262 00:09:53,990 --> 00:09:51,300 have provided testimony to arrow and I I 263 00:09:57,230 --> 00:09:54,000 wonder if they have been told if Arrow 264 00:10:00,650 --> 00:09:57,240 Dr Kirkpatrick has been told there are 265 00:10:02,870 --> 00:10:00,660 Legacy UFO programs to study Hardware if 266 00:10:04,670 --> 00:10:02,880 this is true and and he's been told 267 00:10:07,009 --> 00:10:04,680 where he could find some of this 268 00:10:08,990 --> 00:10:07,019 Hardware what the classified program 269 00:10:12,530 --> 00:10:09,000 names have been if that has been 270 00:10:13,970 --> 00:10:12,540 corroborated and verified by other you 271 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:13,980 know air quotes whistleblowers other 272 00:10:17,389 --> 00:10:15,600 people that have talked about it if 273 00:10:19,730 --> 00:10:17,399 that's true maybe he doesn't have the 274 00:10:22,190 --> 00:10:19,740 authority yet to completely knock on 275 00:10:23,990 --> 00:10:22,200 those doors and find out is it true what 276 00:10:26,269 --> 00:10:24,000 these people are telling him you and I 277 00:10:29,630 --> 00:10:26,279 both know he has heard what I would 278 00:10:32,870 --> 00:10:29,640 consider extremely not only compelling 279 00:10:36,290 --> 00:10:32,880 but testimony that can be tracked down 280 00:10:38,630 --> 00:10:36,300 and verified specific program names for 281 00:10:41,509 --> 00:10:38,640 legacy UFO programs and holding 282 00:10:44,810 --> 00:10:41,519 facilities for that Hardware if that is 283 00:10:46,430 --> 00:10:44,820 true which I am damn confident it is how 284 00:10:48,710 --> 00:10:46,440 did that not play in 285 00:10:50,569 --> 00:10:48,720 to what we're hearing at the hearing 286 00:10:52,910 --> 00:10:50,579 I'll tell you what why don't we hear 287 00:10:54,889 --> 00:10:52,920 from him okay a basic statement that he 288 00:10:57,410 --> 00:10:54,899 made some of the the claims that he made 289 00:10:58,970 --> 00:10:57,420 in this testimony for those who didn't 290 00:11:00,769 --> 00:10:58,980 get up early in the morning and listen 291 00:11:02,329 --> 00:11:00,779 to the whole thing and then we'll come 292 00:11:04,190 --> 00:11:02,339 back and talk about it distinguished 293 00:11:05,930 --> 00:11:04,200 members of the subcommittee 294 00:11:08,329 --> 00:11:05,940 it's a privilege to be here today to 295 00:11:09,949 --> 00:11:08,339 testify on the defense uh defense's 296 00:11:11,990 --> 00:11:09,959 efforts to address unidentified 297 00:11:14,449 --> 00:11:12,000 anomalous phenomena 298 00:11:16,910 --> 00:11:14,459 I want to underscore today that only a 299 00:11:18,710 --> 00:11:16,920 very small percentage of UAP reports 300 00:11:21,650 --> 00:11:18,720 displays signatures that could 301 00:11:23,449 --> 00:11:21,660 reasonably be described as anomalous the 302 00:11:26,389 --> 00:11:23,459 majority of unidentified objects 303 00:11:28,790 --> 00:11:26,399 reported to Arrow demonstrate mundane 304 00:11:31,130 --> 00:11:28,800 characteristics of balloons unmanned 305 00:11:33,949 --> 00:11:31,140 aerial systems clutter natural phenomena 306 00:11:36,230 --> 00:11:33,959 other readily explainable sources 307 00:11:38,690 --> 00:11:36,240 while a large number of cases in our 308 00:11:41,630 --> 00:11:38,700 Holdings remain technically unresolved 309 00:11:43,910 --> 00:11:41,640 this is primarily due to a lack of data 310 00:11:46,190 --> 00:11:43,920 associated with those cases without 311 00:11:48,050 --> 00:11:46,200 sufficient data we are unable to reach 312 00:11:50,630 --> 00:11:48,060 defendable conclusions 313 00:11:52,850 --> 00:11:50,640 that meet the high scientific standards 314 00:11:54,889 --> 00:11:52,860 we set for resolution and I will not 315 00:11:57,590 --> 00:11:54,899 close a case that I cannot defend the 316 00:11:59,170 --> 00:11:57,600 conclusions of it is fact that UAP often 317 00:12:02,269 --> 00:11:59,180 but not always 318 00:12:04,610 --> 00:12:02,279 resolve into readily explainable sources 319 00:12:06,650 --> 00:12:04,620 arrow is approaching these cases with 320 00:12:09,290 --> 00:12:06,660 the highest level of objectivity and 321 00:12:11,030 --> 00:12:09,300 analytic rigor this includes physically 322 00:12:13,790 --> 00:12:11,040 testing and employing modeling and 323 00:12:15,949 --> 00:12:13,800 simulation validate our analyzes and 324 00:12:17,710 --> 00:12:15,959 underlying theories then peer reviewing 325 00:12:19,910 --> 00:12:17,720 those results within the U.S government 326 00:12:21,949 --> 00:12:19,920 industry partners and appropriately 327 00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:21,959 cleared academic institutions before 328 00:12:26,150 --> 00:12:24,240 reaching any conclusions 329 00:12:28,310 --> 00:12:26,160 I should also State clearly for the 330 00:12:30,769 --> 00:12:28,320 record that in our research Arrow has 331 00:12:32,870 --> 00:12:30,779 found no credible evidence thus far of 332 00:12:35,569 --> 00:12:32,880 extraterrestrial activity off-world 333 00:12:37,250 --> 00:12:35,579 technology or objects that defy the 334 00:12:39,710 --> 00:12:37,260 known laws of physics 335 00:12:42,110 --> 00:12:39,720 in the event sufficient scientific data 336 00:12:44,150 --> 00:12:42,120 were ever obtained that a UAP 337 00:12:46,550 --> 00:12:44,160 encountered can only be explained by 338 00:12:48,470 --> 00:12:46,560 extraterrestrial origin we are committed 339 00:12:51,230 --> 00:12:48,480 to working with our interagency partners 340 00:12:53,569 --> 00:12:51,240 at Nasa to appropriately inform U.S 341 00:12:56,210 --> 00:12:53,579 government's leadership of its findings 342 00:12:57,949 --> 00:12:56,220 for those few cases that have leaked to 343 00:13:00,350 --> 00:12:57,959 the public previously and subsequently 344 00:13:02,030 --> 00:13:00,360 commented on by the U.S government I 345 00:13:03,769 --> 00:13:02,040 encourage those who hold alternative 346 00:13:05,870 --> 00:13:03,779 theories or views to submit your 347 00:13:08,150 --> 00:13:05,880 research to Credible peer-reviewed 348 00:13:09,949 --> 00:13:08,160 scientific journals arrow is working 349 00:13:12,949 --> 00:13:09,959 very hard to do the same 350 00:13:15,610 --> 00:13:12,959 that is how science works not by blog or 351 00:13:18,530 --> 00:13:15,620 social media I have set up two teams 352 00:13:20,449 --> 00:13:18,540 think of this as a red team blue team or 353 00:13:22,550 --> 00:13:20,459 a competitive analysis 354 00:13:25,670 --> 00:13:22,560 I have an intelligence Community team 355 00:13:28,490 --> 00:13:25,680 made up of intelligence analysts and I 356 00:13:29,810 --> 00:13:28,500 have an s t team made up of scientists 357 00:13:31,730 --> 00:13:29,820 and engineers and the people that 358 00:13:33,710 --> 00:13:31,740 actually build a lot of these sensors or 359 00:13:36,769 --> 00:13:33,720 physicists because you know if you're a 360 00:13:37,610 --> 00:13:36,779 physicist you can do anything right 361 00:13:40,790 --> 00:13:37,620 um 362 00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:40,800 and but they're not associated with the 363 00:13:45,410 --> 00:13:43,200 Intel Community they're not Intel 364 00:13:47,569 --> 00:13:45,420 officers so they they look at this 365 00:13:49,910 --> 00:13:47,579 through the lens of the sensor of the 366 00:13:51,889 --> 00:13:49,920 what the data says we give that package 367 00:13:53,569 --> 00:13:51,899 to both teams 368 00:13:54,829 --> 00:13:53,579 the intelligence Community is going to 369 00:13:57,110 --> 00:13:54,839 look at it through the lens of the 370 00:13:59,870 --> 00:13:57,120 intelligence record and what they assess 371 00:14:01,730 --> 00:13:59,880 and their Intel tradecraft which they 372 00:14:04,069 --> 00:14:01,740 have very specific rules and regulations 373 00:14:06,110 --> 00:14:04,079 on how they do that scientific Community 374 00:14:08,030 --> 00:14:06,120 Technical Community is going to look at 375 00:14:10,970 --> 00:14:08,040 it through the lens of what is the data 376 00:14:14,090 --> 00:14:10,980 telling me what is the sensor doing what 377 00:14:17,210 --> 00:14:14,100 would I expect a sense of response to be 378 00:14:21,470 --> 00:14:17,220 and back that out those two groups give 379 00:14:23,150 --> 00:14:21,480 us their answers we then adjudicate 380 00:14:25,550 --> 00:14:23,160 if they agree 381 00:14:27,829 --> 00:14:25,560 then I am more likely to close that case 382 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:27,839 if they agree on what it is if they 383 00:14:32,210 --> 00:14:30,240 disagree we will have an adjudication 384 00:14:34,370 --> 00:14:32,220 we'll bring them together we'll take a 385 00:14:36,829 --> 00:14:34,380 look at the differences we'll adjudicate 386 00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:36,839 what why do you say one thing and you 387 00:14:40,009 --> 00:14:37,920 say another 388 00:14:43,009 --> 00:14:40,019 we will then come to a case 389 00:14:45,470 --> 00:14:43,019 recommendation 390 00:14:48,829 --> 00:14:45,480 that'll get written up by my team 391 00:14:50,629 --> 00:14:48,839 that then goes to a senior technical 392 00:14:52,569 --> 00:14:50,639 Advisory Group 393 00:14:56,030 --> 00:14:52,579 which is outside of all of those people 394 00:15:01,189 --> 00:14:56,040 made up of senior technical folks and 395 00:15:04,030 --> 00:15:01,199 and Intel analysts and operators from 396 00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:04,040 retired out of the community 397 00:15:13,790 --> 00:15:06,959 and they they essentially peer review 398 00:15:20,930 --> 00:15:17,990 there is a lot that was very I guess uh 399 00:15:22,610 --> 00:15:20,940 kind of good like I really liked what he 400 00:15:24,170 --> 00:15:22,620 was saying which is that the way he 401 00:15:26,990 --> 00:15:24,180 approaches scientifically the evidence 402 00:15:29,090 --> 00:15:27,000 it's a hard job it's boring so a lot of 403 00:15:31,189 --> 00:15:29,100 military people call me during you know 404 00:15:32,389 --> 00:15:31,199 this hearing screaming in the phone and 405 00:15:34,850 --> 00:15:32,399 then a couple people I talked to after 406 00:15:36,829 --> 00:15:34,860 and they're like look this is the way 407 00:15:39,350 --> 00:15:36,839 that UFOs should be investigated 408 00:15:42,050 --> 00:15:39,360 government is slow and it's it's a slow 409 00:15:45,050 --> 00:15:42,060 meticulous kind of boring process so Dr 410 00:15:47,449 --> 00:15:45,060 Kirkpatrick talked about having a a 411 00:15:49,250 --> 00:15:47,459 scientific board that he would go to and 412 00:15:50,870 --> 00:15:49,260 they would assess cases independently 413 00:15:52,790 --> 00:15:50,880 and then he talked about having an 414 00:15:54,829 --> 00:15:52,800 intelligence board they would go in and 415 00:15:56,750 --> 00:15:54,839 use the IC communities information and 416 00:15:59,449 --> 00:15:56,760 assess independently this information 417 00:16:01,610 --> 00:15:59,459 and then he'd bring them together and if 418 00:16:03,290 --> 00:16:01,620 they agreed on what they're seeing in 419 00:16:04,670 --> 00:16:03,300 these videos or whatever kind of 420 00:16:07,189 --> 00:16:04,680 evidence he's getting 421 00:16:08,750 --> 00:16:07,199 and if they don't if they don't then 422 00:16:10,129 --> 00:16:08,760 they would adjudicate it they would they 423 00:16:11,509 --> 00:16:10,139 would study it they would get on the 424 00:16:13,129 --> 00:16:11,519 same level try to understand what's 425 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:13,139 going on and then move those up to 426 00:16:17,329 --> 00:16:14,940 another group of advisors it's a good 427 00:16:19,790 --> 00:16:17,339 scientific process look he's a scientist 428 00:16:22,910 --> 00:16:19,800 he's a physicist right from what I know 429 00:16:26,030 --> 00:16:22,920 so so if that's the case he's creating a 430 00:16:28,730 --> 00:16:26,040 good system for identifying and looking 431 00:16:30,530 --> 00:16:28,740 at UFO footage and videos 432 00:16:33,230 --> 00:16:30,540 I think that's good I think that's very 433 00:16:35,449 --> 00:16:33,240 positive I I agree it makes it sound 434 00:16:37,850 --> 00:16:35,459 like it is a meticulous organized 435 00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:37,860 process that they're being careful if 436 00:16:42,110 --> 00:16:39,180 he'd come out and said something 437 00:16:45,170 --> 00:16:42,120 outrageous yes ET is here we need to 438 00:16:47,629 --> 00:16:45,180 head for the bunkers it would be way 439 00:16:49,850 --> 00:16:47,639 over the top but of course he was much 440 00:16:51,949 --> 00:16:49,860 more reserved and careful about their 441 00:16:54,170 --> 00:16:51,959 language that he used and it sounds like 442 00:16:55,970 --> 00:16:54,180 it is a process that is underway the 443 00:16:57,949 --> 00:16:55,980 question is from the general public is 444 00:17:00,650 --> 00:16:57,959 how long is this going to take because 445 00:17:02,930 --> 00:17:00,660 you know UFO people are very impatient 446 00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:02,940 they want the answers now the fact that 447 00:17:06,490 --> 00:17:04,559 he didn't come out and have an alien 448 00:17:09,530 --> 00:17:06,500 next to him testifying 449 00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:09,540 it makes it to them seem like it's 450 00:17:13,490 --> 00:17:12,240 outrageous I mean the first alien that 451 00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:13,500 comes out is going to go on The Joe 452 00:17:17,090 --> 00:17:15,360 Rogan podcast I'm sorry it's just like 453 00:17:19,069 --> 00:17:17,100 the biggest podcast ever he's already 454 00:17:21,289 --> 00:17:19,079 invited an alien under the show so I 455 00:17:23,030 --> 00:17:21,299 think I think like I don't know what 456 00:17:25,130 --> 00:17:23,040 people's expectations were I think it 457 00:17:27,230 --> 00:17:25,140 was good on one level and a lot of 458 00:17:28,909 --> 00:17:27,240 people felt the same way and people 459 00:17:31,310 --> 00:17:28,919 um you know military individuals said 460 00:17:33,470 --> 00:17:31,320 this is the way that that we get there 461 00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:33,480 but there were other people that didn't 462 00:17:38,029 --> 00:17:35,760 yeah that's the big question is we have 463 00:17:41,150 --> 00:17:38,039 been in contact with a lot of folks you 464 00:17:44,210 --> 00:17:41,160 would call whistleblowers who have gone 465 00:17:46,250 --> 00:17:44,220 above and beyond who put their careers 466 00:17:49,010 --> 00:17:46,260 and reputations on the line to come 467 00:17:51,409 --> 00:17:49,020 forward with some outrageous uh 468 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:51,419 testimony that happens to be true and 469 00:17:56,390 --> 00:17:54,000 they've talked to Kirkpatrick 470 00:17:58,250 --> 00:17:56,400 the fact that he says there's no 471 00:18:00,770 --> 00:17:58,260 credible evidence 472 00:18:03,049 --> 00:18:00,780 um you know it is kind of a slap in the 473 00:18:06,470 --> 00:18:03,059 face to some of them don't you think 474 00:18:08,930 --> 00:18:06,480 they certainly felt like it was but the 475 00:18:11,870 --> 00:18:08,940 thing is is evidence of what we we don't 476 00:18:14,690 --> 00:18:11,880 so the whole thing with the UFO issue is 477 00:18:17,150 --> 00:18:14,700 that we haven't if we have determined 478 00:18:18,289 --> 00:18:17,160 that this is extraterrestrial that 479 00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:18,299 hasn't been conveyed to the American 480 00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:20,160 public yet so all these people giving 481 00:18:24,529 --> 00:18:22,500 testimony of what they've experienced he 482 00:18:26,450 --> 00:18:24,539 I'd assume he needs to run that down 483 00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:26,460 validate that information you don't know 484 00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:28,080 when people tell you stuff if it's real 485 00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:31,200 or not uh but I think the quality of 486 00:18:36,430 --> 00:18:33,360 information that we know he's been given 487 00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:36,440 about Legacy UFO programs Hardware 488 00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:41,280 exploitation programs is is so good that 489 00:18:44,750 --> 00:18:42,840 it's something that he could validate 490 00:18:45,470 --> 00:18:44,760 well let's get into that 491 00:18:48,049 --> 00:18:45,480 um 492 00:18:50,270 --> 00:18:48,059 how specific has the information been 493 00:18:52,490 --> 00:18:50,280 that's been conveyed to him from people 494 00:18:54,169 --> 00:18:52,500 that we know I'd like to give our 495 00:18:56,450 --> 00:18:54,179 audience a little bit of an indication 496 00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:56,460 of where it's gone yeah to to the 497 00:19:01,730 --> 00:18:59,039 location of storage the place the 498 00:19:04,669 --> 00:19:01,740 building program names UFO exploitation 499 00:19:06,409 --> 00:19:04,679 program names like actual the actual 500 00:19:09,230 --> 00:19:06,419 names and classified settings have been 501 00:19:11,630 --> 00:19:09,240 given they've been corroborated 502 00:19:15,230 --> 00:19:11,640 and then they've been given locations 503 00:19:17,510 --> 00:19:15,240 where some of this Hardware is so it's 504 00:19:19,669 --> 00:19:17,520 been very specific if I'm a 505 00:19:21,710 --> 00:19:19,679 whistleblower and I'm sitting at home I 506 00:19:23,150 --> 00:19:21,720 worked on one of these Legacy programs I 507 00:19:25,490 --> 00:19:23,160 work for one of the big Aerospace 508 00:19:27,950 --> 00:19:25,500 contractors I've seen The Meta materials 509 00:19:29,990 --> 00:19:27,960 maybe I've seen the craft I've been told 510 00:19:32,049 --> 00:19:30,000 to shut up and I'm thinking about coming 511 00:19:34,430 --> 00:19:32,059 forward and saying something to 512 00:19:36,650 --> 00:19:34,440 Kirkpatrick or somebody else or to 513 00:19:37,549 --> 00:19:36,660 Congress and I see that testimony it 514 00:19:39,110 --> 00:19:37,559 says 515 00:19:40,730 --> 00:19:39,120 you know I know there have been 516 00:19:43,370 --> 00:19:40,740 whistleblowers but there's been nothing 517 00:19:45,409 --> 00:19:43,380 credible no evidence that I've seen do I 518 00:19:49,310 --> 00:19:45,419 want to come forward do I want to put my 519 00:19:53,090 --> 00:19:49,320 neck uh in in the guillotine and risk my 520 00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:53,100 career my life the lives of my family to 521 00:19:57,650 --> 00:19:55,200 come forward with this information or do 522 00:20:00,590 --> 00:19:57,660 I stay home 523 00:20:02,870 --> 00:20:00,600 give them time I mean I I honestly I I 524 00:20:05,810 --> 00:20:02,880 hate myself that I'm defending him give 525 00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:05,820 him time because I I think that he does 526 00:20:12,110 --> 00:20:08,480 not yet have the authority 527 00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:12,120 to fully authenticate the information 528 00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,700 we'll say claims right now that he has 529 00:20:18,650 --> 00:20:16,799 heard and I know that to be true that he 530 00:20:20,750 --> 00:20:18,660 doesn't have the authority yet but 531 00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:20,760 they're seeking it so I would say just 532 00:20:25,070 --> 00:20:22,559 give it a beat so if we were to say 533 00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:25,080 that's part of the bad we saw the good 534 00:20:30,110 --> 00:20:28,080 we've seen the bad now is that that came 535 00:20:32,810 --> 00:20:30,120 out I mean loud and clear he does not 536 00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:32,820 have title 10 and title 50 authority to 537 00:20:37,010 --> 00:20:35,039 go ahead and Pierce the Veil of secrecy 538 00:20:39,470 --> 00:20:37,020 with these Special access programs 539 00:20:42,110 --> 00:20:39,480 places that we know hold the goodies 540 00:20:43,549 --> 00:20:42,120 hold the secrets straight up yeah so 541 00:20:44,810 --> 00:20:43,559 that's that's isn't that the roadblock 542 00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:44,820 that everybody's kind of when it comes 543 00:20:49,850 --> 00:20:48,240 to UFOs if this is real if this is a the 544 00:20:51,770 --> 00:20:49,860 secret that we're holding technologies 545 00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:51,780 that are far we're not just seeing them 546 00:20:56,450 --> 00:20:54,000 in the skies that that is that is known 547 00:20:58,490 --> 00:20:56,460 Senator gillibrand talked about that we 548 00:21:01,010 --> 00:20:58,500 now know that there are Machines of 549 00:21:03,289 --> 00:21:01,020 Unknown Origin that perform in ways that 550 00:21:06,110 --> 00:21:03,299 we can't duplicate we can't replicate 551 00:21:07,970 --> 00:21:06,120 and there's no Advanced nation that we 552 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:07,980 know of that is manufacturing these 553 00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:10,080 craft so we get to the point where like 554 00:21:14,090 --> 00:21:12,000 well whose are they and if anything 555 00:21:16,789 --> 00:21:14,100 we've learned with the UFO subject it's 556 00:21:17,930 --> 00:21:16,799 that if this is true and we're we've 557 00:21:20,450 --> 00:21:17,940 been trying to get derivative 558 00:21:21,830 --> 00:21:20,460 Technologies from these I don't know 559 00:21:24,529 --> 00:21:21,840 UFOs 560 00:21:27,010 --> 00:21:24,539 that [\h__\h] is locked up it's just not 561 00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:27,020 something that these Private Industry 562 00:21:31,130 --> 00:21:29,340 stakeholders are going to just open up 563 00:21:33,230 --> 00:21:31,140 to the public about so he might have the 564 00:21:35,330 --> 00:21:33,240 same problems as everybody before him 565 00:21:37,850 --> 00:21:35,340 trying to get him it's annoying as [\h__\h] 566 00:21:40,370 --> 00:21:37,860 well we did get a chance to see one of 567 00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:40,380 the uh pieces of evidence that has come 568 00:21:44,090 --> 00:21:42,480 into arrow and in recent times and I 569 00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:44,100 don't know about you but when I saw this 570 00:21:48,049 --> 00:21:46,320 orb floating over the Middle East it 571 00:21:50,510 --> 00:21:48,059 kind of rang a bell with me it seems 572 00:21:51,649 --> 00:21:50,520 familiar doesn't it how so George I 573 00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:51,659 don't know what you're talking about I 574 00:21:55,789 --> 00:21:53,520 don't know episode one of weaponized 575 00:21:58,130 --> 00:21:55,799 comes to mind oh what was it episode one 576 00:22:02,330 --> 00:21:58,140 okay so right so what you're talking 577 00:22:06,110 --> 00:22:02,340 about is that uh Dr Kirkpatrick he 578 00:22:08,570 --> 00:22:06,120 demonstrated two cases within arrow that 579 00:22:11,149 --> 00:22:08,580 they said one is unresolved and one is 580 00:22:13,610 --> 00:22:11,159 resolved I I found his choices super 581 00:22:16,909 --> 00:22:13,620 interesting so the First Choice he he 582 00:22:19,610 --> 00:22:16,919 chose was uh an orb so it was a metallic 583 00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:19,620 sphere this is the most common UFO 584 00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:22,559 sighting is a metallic sphere anywhere 585 00:22:27,770 --> 00:22:25,679 between one meter to three meters that 586 00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:27,780 that just moves under intelligent 587 00:22:31,730 --> 00:22:29,520 control without 588 00:22:33,890 --> 00:22:31,740 um heat plumes or exhaust right it's not 589 00:22:36,529 --> 00:22:33,900 aerodynamic so they did show one of 590 00:22:39,230 --> 00:22:36,539 those they did show it was not the mosul 591 00:22:42,169 --> 00:22:39,240 orb the mosul orb is the image of the 592 00:22:44,690 --> 00:22:42,179 video that we released there is a video 593 00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:44,700 there is a video it's been used to brief 594 00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:47,280 uh the the armed services it's been used 595 00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:49,919 brief uh you know defense contractors 596 00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:51,840 it's been used to brief politicians it's 597 00:22:55,490 --> 00:22:53,280 been used to breathe I mean really the 598 00:22:57,649 --> 00:22:55,500 whole armed services if you have sipper 599 00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:57,659 net or any of these classified server 600 00:23:02,630 --> 00:22:59,760 access you can go see it yourself Json 601 00:23:05,330 --> 00:23:02,640 did a 23 minute video about UFOs how to 602 00:23:08,810 --> 00:23:05,340 identify them and what's up 603 00:23:11,330 --> 00:23:08,820 why did he show from the Middle East one 604 00:23:14,330 --> 00:23:11,340 of these orbs 605 00:23:17,390 --> 00:23:14,340 and they're not releasing the mosul orb 606 00:23:20,029 --> 00:23:17,400 video your guess is as good as mine well 607 00:23:21,950 --> 00:23:20,039 I mean he also said this is all the 608 00:23:24,289 --> 00:23:21,960 information we have the video is all we 609 00:23:26,690 --> 00:23:24,299 have what platform was that used to 610 00:23:29,770 --> 00:23:26,700 record that that image a Reaper drone a 611 00:23:33,169 --> 00:23:29,780 Reaper drone a sensor system a flying 612 00:23:36,049 --> 00:23:33,179 spy uh apparatus right so so if they 613 00:23:37,970 --> 00:23:36,059 know the point in time and space where 614 00:23:40,370 --> 00:23:37,980 that footage was taken which of course 615 00:23:42,110 --> 00:23:40,380 they do because it's in all of the data 616 00:23:43,789 --> 00:23:42,120 and the metadata of that image they can 617 00:23:46,010 --> 00:23:43,799 find out how fast it was going they can 618 00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:46,020 find out the exact size and there are 619 00:23:50,810 --> 00:23:48,480 other sensor systems that can then 620 00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:50,820 corroborate what that one Reaper drone 621 00:23:56,330 --> 00:23:54,000 picked up that shouldn't be a problem so 622 00:23:58,130 --> 00:23:56,340 I'm surprised when he said that's all 623 00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:58,140 the information we have maybe it is 624 00:24:02,990 --> 00:24:01,200 right now all you have to do is get a 625 00:24:04,669 --> 00:24:03,000 dig in a little bit and you'll have more 626 00:24:07,130 --> 00:24:04,679 information ask for it you know I've 627 00:24:09,470 --> 00:24:07,140 already seen people on UFO social media 628 00:24:11,270 --> 00:24:09,480 trying to explain that's probably just a 629 00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:11,280 balloon and it looks like it's moving 630 00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,200 moving kind of fast because the reaper 631 00:24:17,270 --> 00:24:15,120 is moving kind of fast what do you say 632 00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:17,280 to that yeah I mean there is validity to 633 00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:19,440 the idea that it's hard to determine the 634 00:24:22,789 --> 00:24:21,120 the speed of something without knowing 635 00:24:24,649 --> 00:24:22,799 all the variables like that's totally 636 00:24:27,230 --> 00:24:24,659 fair the thing is is that it's it's 637 00:24:30,169 --> 00:24:27,240 unresolved it's unknown it is indicative 638 00:24:31,850 --> 00:24:30,179 of over 50 of the UFO sightings it is 639 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:31,860 something that we made the public aware 640 00:24:37,250 --> 00:24:35,520 of from a 2016 video the mosul or first 641 00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:37,260 time the world had ever seen you know 642 00:24:41,149 --> 00:24:38,880 military film footage from a conflict 643 00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:41,159 zone so now you got another and it's the 644 00:24:46,669 --> 00:24:44,460 same so the question is does does Dr 645 00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:46,679 kirpatrick Nero not have the the proper 646 00:24:50,210 --> 00:24:48,240 resources not have the right amount of 647 00:24:51,710 --> 00:24:50,220 time not the right amount of funding all 648 00:24:54,169 --> 00:24:51,720 of this is what they were addressing and 649 00:24:57,789 --> 00:24:54,179 that hearing was trying to empower his 650 00:25:00,649 --> 00:24:57,799 office to get more information look UFOs 651 00:25:02,570 --> 00:25:00,659 and what pilots are seeing 652 00:25:03,470 --> 00:25:02,580 and what we've experienced for a long 653 00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,480 time 654 00:25:07,490 --> 00:25:05,520 we are all searching for the same thing 655 00:25:10,610 --> 00:25:07,500 we are all searching for understanding 656 00:25:12,110 --> 00:25:10,620 no matter where they are from it's clear 657 00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:12,120 at this point we have ruled out U.S 658 00:25:17,570 --> 00:25:15,120 technology that is 100 clear 659 00:25:20,090 --> 00:25:17,580 seems to be that that object that was 660 00:25:22,190 --> 00:25:20,100 released in that video clip looks a heck 661 00:25:23,690 --> 00:25:22,200 of a lot like the mosul ore yeah do you 662 00:25:26,510 --> 00:25:23,700 think they're the same thing 663 00:25:28,010 --> 00:25:26,520 I I would have no way of knowing uh it's 664 00:25:29,450 --> 00:25:28,020 not what it looks like it it's not oh 665 00:25:31,970 --> 00:25:29,460 yeah totally it's it's not the same 666 00:25:33,529 --> 00:25:31,980 video but the the mosul orb is if you 667 00:25:34,610 --> 00:25:33,539 ever get to see the video if the 668 00:25:37,490 --> 00:25:34,620 American public ever gets to see the 669 00:25:39,710 --> 00:25:37,500 video it's it's it is 670 00:25:41,570 --> 00:25:39,720 totally identical to what you've seen I 671 00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:41,580 mean it's not the same video mosul 672 00:25:49,490 --> 00:25:45,600 Orbitz 2016 the one he showed is 2022 673 00:25:51,710 --> 00:25:49,500 but that and it's a spherical metallic 674 00:25:53,450 --> 00:25:51,720 object which is not just like us it's 675 00:25:55,490 --> 00:25:53,460 not just a balloon or something they 676 00:25:57,409 --> 00:25:55,500 rule those out immediately those never 677 00:25:59,210 --> 00:25:57,419 make it into the archive that was a 678 00:26:01,669 --> 00:25:59,220 point this this is unknown it's a 679 00:26:03,230 --> 00:26:01,679 genuine yeah yeah it's not behaving like 680 00:26:04,970 --> 00:26:03,240 a balloon or it wouldn't be in that 681 00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:04,980 archive you'll recall when we had the 682 00:26:09,169 --> 00:26:06,960 most lore been released it the reaction 683 00:26:12,649 --> 00:26:09,179 was oh that's a drop of water on the 684 00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:12,659 camera it's a pothole uh clearly this 685 00:26:15,649 --> 00:26:14,159 thing is not a pothole flying through 686 00:26:17,810 --> 00:26:15,659 the sky well if people could see the 687 00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:17,820 most or video if our Department of 688 00:26:20,930 --> 00:26:19,380 Defense decided to release it then it 689 00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:20,940 would just be like like this video 690 00:26:24,350 --> 00:26:22,559 they'd realize that it's not all these 691 00:26:26,269 --> 00:26:24,360 ridiculous things that they said I 692 00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:26,279 understand going for the lowest hanging 693 00:26:29,570 --> 00:26:27,840 fruit and trying to make everything 694 00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:29,580 explainable so your world view doesn't 695 00:26:34,250 --> 00:26:31,919 collapse I get that we're all trying to 696 00:26:38,510 --> 00:26:34,260 survive on a daily basis but reality is 697 00:26:41,149 --> 00:26:38,520 that the the UAP or UFO Pres Essence is 698 00:26:42,529 --> 00:26:41,159 is real and and we now are openly 699 00:26:44,029 --> 00:26:42,539 talking about it now we have a 700 00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:44,039 government agency that is openly 701 00:26:47,630 --> 00:26:45,600 studying it that's the thing about Arrow 702 00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:47,640 that's that's different than when we've 703 00:26:52,850 --> 00:26:50,159 had secret programs never acknowledged 704 00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:52,860 Eros acknowledged I'd love that here's 705 00:26:57,529 --> 00:26:54,720 the other point that I think needs to be 706 00:26:59,630 --> 00:26:57,539 made okay so Dr Kirkpatrick shows this 707 00:27:01,610 --> 00:26:59,640 in a hearing before the U.S Senate a 708 00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:01,620 senate subcommittee he shows that video 709 00:27:07,070 --> 00:27:04,559 the heavens did not open World War III 710 00:27:09,169 --> 00:27:07,080 did not erupt our national security was 711 00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:09,179 not compromised the Russians didn't 712 00:27:14,330 --> 00:27:11,520 invade Santa Monica the Chinese didn't 713 00:27:16,970 --> 00:27:14,340 attack Us in Alaska or wherever I mean 714 00:27:18,649 --> 00:27:16,980 you can release this information and it 715 00:27:20,990 --> 00:27:18,659 does not compromise U.S national 716 00:27:23,149 --> 00:27:21,000 security why not release the video of 717 00:27:25,549 --> 00:27:23,159 the mosul orb why not release the video 718 00:27:27,409 --> 00:27:25,559 of the Baghdad Phantom which we have 719 00:27:29,470 --> 00:27:27,419 made public well let's talk about the 720 00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:29,480 Baghdad Phantom in a second but like I 721 00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:34,080 again am saying hey everybody you've 722 00:27:38,570 --> 00:27:36,720 seen an image we put out an image it was 723 00:27:41,810 --> 00:27:38,580 contained with an classified briefing 724 00:27:44,390 --> 00:27:41,820 but is inherently unclassified why not 725 00:27:46,610 --> 00:27:44,400 allow the public to engage this I do 726 00:27:48,529 --> 00:27:46,620 think like social media and 727 00:27:50,269 --> 00:27:48,539 crowdsourcing is a good idea Dr 728 00:27:52,190 --> 00:27:50,279 Kirkpatrick kind of was saying this 729 00:27:54,409 --> 00:27:52,200 issue is not going to be resolved on 730 00:27:56,690 --> 00:27:54,419 social media or blogs I get his point 731 00:27:58,669 --> 00:27:56,700 like it's not like a perfect system but 732 00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:58,679 crowdsourcing is important I think 733 00:28:02,930 --> 00:28:00,480 letting the public see what's going on 734 00:28:05,210 --> 00:28:02,940 the world's not going to collapse but 735 00:28:07,690 --> 00:28:05,220 these the mosul orb and the video that 736 00:28:12,169 --> 00:28:07,700 he released are 737 00:28:13,490 --> 00:28:12,179 so freaking common This Is An Occurrence 738 00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:13,500 that happens all the time with the UFOs 739 00:28:19,370 --> 00:28:16,320 is this type of machine I have heard Dr 740 00:28:21,470 --> 00:28:19,380 Kirkpatrick and others uh in the US 741 00:28:23,930 --> 00:28:21,480 government and the Pentagon talking 742 00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:23,940 about transparency oh gosh we really 743 00:28:29,210 --> 00:28:26,640 need transparency that is a goal of ours 744 00:28:31,610 --> 00:28:29,220 we want to be transparent I don't see a 745 00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:31,620 lot of transparency for example he gave 746 00:28:36,110 --> 00:28:33,480 us very little information to go along 747 00:28:38,210 --> 00:28:36,120 with that that or video we have no other 748 00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:38,220 data I don't believe that to be the case 749 00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:41,039 that cannot possibly be true we know for 750 00:28:44,690 --> 00:28:42,480 sure they have other information about 751 00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,700 the mosul orb that we released we know 752 00:28:48,529 --> 00:28:46,799 for sure they have other data about the 753 00:28:51,130 --> 00:28:48,539 Baghdad Phantom that they have not 754 00:28:54,049 --> 00:28:51,140 released and we know that when we've 755 00:28:56,450 --> 00:28:54,059 presented videos and other images that 756 00:28:59,450 --> 00:28:56,460 we have obtained to the Pentagon they 757 00:29:01,610 --> 00:28:59,460 shut us down right so maybe he doesn't 758 00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:01,620 have more information at this time but 759 00:29:06,110 --> 00:29:03,600 the thing is if I can go get more 760 00:29:08,510 --> 00:29:06,120 information on the Baghdad Phantom and I 761 00:29:10,909 --> 00:29:08,520 can get more information on the mosa orb 762 00:29:13,010 --> 00:29:10,919 why can't his office so that that does 763 00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:13,020 bother me maybe he should have said at 764 00:29:16,370 --> 00:29:15,120 this time the thing is look I'm just 765 00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,380 imagining we're all in this together 766 00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:18,240 we're just trying to figure out what's 767 00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:22,020 up with UFOs right uh he should have at 768 00:29:26,990 --> 00:29:24,480 his resource the ability to investigate 769 00:29:27,769 --> 00:29:27,000 any of these at higher quality than the 770 00:29:31,010 --> 00:29:27,779 public 771 00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:31,020 I do agree that that we should get more 772 00:29:33,710 --> 00:29:32,159 transparency if they're saying 773 00:29:35,450 --> 00:29:33,720 transparency then let's get more 774 00:29:37,250 --> 00:29:35,460 transparences get this information out 775 00:29:39,649 --> 00:29:37,260 there the Baghdad Phantom let's talk 776 00:29:42,590 --> 00:29:39,659 about that the second example that Dr 777 00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,600 Kirkpatrick showed in this hearing it 778 00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,640 was already a resolved issue so he's 779 00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:46,559 showing thermal imagery I don't know if 780 00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:48,600 it's white hot or black hot like it's 781 00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:50,340 hard to really analyze it without all 782 00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:52,559 the information and I'm not a systems 783 00:29:56,510 --> 00:29:54,000 analyst but 784 00:29:58,730 --> 00:29:56,520 he was showing something that was 785 00:30:00,889 --> 00:29:58,740 already resolved so hey look sometimes 786 00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:00,899 we get footage that looks really cool or 787 00:30:05,870 --> 00:30:02,640 really strange and then we figure out 788 00:30:07,490 --> 00:30:05,880 it's a plane yeah we know that we deal 789 00:30:10,130 --> 00:30:07,500 with that every day that's what people 790 00:30:11,570 --> 00:30:10,140 deal with the the thing is is that it 791 00:30:14,450 --> 00:30:11,580 was so weird he chose that one because 792 00:30:16,190 --> 00:30:14,460 remember how you and I when we first put 793 00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:16,200 out the Baghdad Phantom to the public 794 00:30:19,490 --> 00:30:17,520 we're like we don't know what this Trail 795 00:30:21,710 --> 00:30:19,500 is in the back but we think it's a like 796 00:30:22,669 --> 00:30:21,720 a camera artifact you know coming from 797 00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:22,679 the camera 798 00:30:25,730 --> 00:30:24,480 well he confirmed that the one that he 799 00:30:28,250 --> 00:30:25,740 showed he made a big point of showing 800 00:30:30,289 --> 00:30:28,260 that it also had a camera artifact I I 801 00:30:31,970 --> 00:30:30,299 didn't know why he was showing that way 802 00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:31,980 it was kind of weird it was 803 00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:34,080 the Baghdad Phantom 804 00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:37,440 filmed in white hot has no exhaust 805 00:30:43,789 --> 00:30:40,559 plumes of heat coming out of it uh it is 806 00:30:45,710 --> 00:30:43,799 not an airplane and it is not a missile 807 00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:45,720 and so that it was kind of weird like 808 00:30:50,090 --> 00:30:47,039 there's bet like if we have better 809 00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:50,100 examples of UAP that we somehow get 810 00:30:53,870 --> 00:30:52,620 leaked from Air Force or whatever we get 811 00:30:55,850 --> 00:30:53,880 from 812 00:30:58,430 --> 00:30:55,860 there was a weird one to show why didn't 813 00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:58,440 he show something better yeah well um 814 00:31:02,510 --> 00:30:59,760 you know 815 00:31:04,909 --> 00:31:02,520 uh it makes me wonder if somebody at 816 00:31:07,310 --> 00:31:04,919 Congress some Senate staffer is watching 817 00:31:09,169 --> 00:31:07,320 weaponized because it it seems 818 00:31:12,350 --> 00:31:09,179 coincidental that that first hearing 819 00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:12,360 that house hearing uh they essentially 820 00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:15,120 tried to debunk the pyramid videos the 821 00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:18,419 bokeh over the the warships on the USS 822 00:31:24,649 --> 00:31:21,600 uh on the west coast the Navy warships 823 00:31:26,690 --> 00:31:24,659 and then in this one they got an orb and 824 00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:26,700 something similar to the Baghdad fandom 825 00:31:30,649 --> 00:31:29,279 yeah coincidence right yeah coincidence 826 00:31:32,690 --> 00:31:30,659 I mean look I'm obviously they're 827 00:31:35,450 --> 00:31:32,700 responding to public demand and public 828 00:31:38,029 --> 00:31:35,460 opinion obviously when if anybody 829 00:31:39,889 --> 00:31:38,039 obtains footage of you know designated 830 00:31:42,049 --> 00:31:39,899 UAP from the military and releases them 831 00:31:44,990 --> 00:31:42,059 to the public uh that's going to be a 832 00:31:46,730 --> 00:31:45,000 topic of conversation you know within uh 833 00:31:48,529 --> 00:31:46,740 the intelligence communities of course 834 00:31:51,230 --> 00:31:48,539 it is that that is a leak that is 835 00:31:54,049 --> 00:31:51,240 information leak and and I'm not saying 836 00:31:55,490 --> 00:31:54,059 it's a good thing but at this point uh 837 00:31:57,470 --> 00:31:55,500 you know there's frustration there's 838 00:31:59,570 --> 00:31:57,480 frustration because everybody knows that 839 00:32:02,690 --> 00:31:59,580 there's good evidence being hidden 840 00:32:04,490 --> 00:32:02,700 no evidence of extraterrestrials what 841 00:32:06,350 --> 00:32:04,500 would that kind of evidence look like I 842 00:32:08,690 --> 00:32:06,360 mean obviously that that's a headline 843 00:32:10,669 --> 00:32:08,700 that a lot of people exploited there's 844 00:32:12,169 --> 00:32:10,679 no evidence of aliens or ETS or 845 00:32:14,810 --> 00:32:12,179 something like that which is probably 846 00:32:17,810 --> 00:32:14,820 true but what would evidence that 847 00:32:20,090 --> 00:32:17,820 confirms its ET even be 848 00:32:21,950 --> 00:32:20,100 you're an obtainium some some element 849 00:32:24,529 --> 00:32:21,960 that doesn't exist here 850 00:32:26,450 --> 00:32:24,539 yeah I mean uh I I you know I don't know 851 00:32:28,430 --> 00:32:26,460 people as people's standards for what 852 00:32:31,490 --> 00:32:28,440 you know I look I don't know what the 853 00:32:34,610 --> 00:32:31,500 full picture is of of UFOs it appears to 854 00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:34,620 me by the way that people are interacted 855 00:32:39,289 --> 00:32:37,200 with and the design of The Craft that 856 00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:39,299 these are from an advanced civilization 857 00:32:43,070 --> 00:32:41,279 not they could easily travel to other 858 00:32:44,750 --> 00:32:43,080 star systems that's what the design of 859 00:32:47,450 --> 00:32:44,760 The Craft seemed to be able 860 00:32:49,789 --> 00:32:47,460 to if you believe that stuff I mean and 861 00:32:52,909 --> 00:32:49,799 I do it it seems like you're you know 862 00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:52,919 the design is able to travel amongst the 863 00:32:57,649 --> 00:32:55,679 Stars but I still don't know it could be 864 00:32:59,450 --> 00:32:57,659 so much weirder than that so we're 865 00:33:01,310 --> 00:32:59,460 talking about Good Bad Ugly here's what 866 00:33:03,289 --> 00:33:01,320 I would consider to be ugly we touched 867 00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:03,299 on this for a moment the fact that he 868 00:33:07,730 --> 00:33:06,000 does not have the legal authority to 869 00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:07,740 force his way into special access 870 00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:10,320 programs where we believe the goodies 871 00:33:14,810 --> 00:33:12,480 are stored and hidden that that's a 872 00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:14,820 problem the second problem is budget now 873 00:33:18,529 --> 00:33:16,380 we didn't get a lot of conversation 874 00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:18,539 about that I suspect uh there were more 875 00:33:22,730 --> 00:33:20,880 discussions behind closed doors in the 876 00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:22,740 closed session but you know we've seen 877 00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:24,960 public statements from senators in the 878 00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:27,360 last couple of weeks that says hey we 879 00:33:32,330 --> 00:33:29,760 authorized a pretty good budget to get 880 00:33:35,149 --> 00:33:32,340 this program underway and the Pentagon 881 00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:35,159 has not allocated that money the 882 00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:36,960 Secretary of Defense says he'll get to 883 00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:38,399 the bottom of it and figure it out but 884 00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:40,320 the the fact that they did not give the 885 00:33:44,509 --> 00:33:42,720 money that Congress wanted to fund for 886 00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:44,519 this that they still don't have the 887 00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:46,559 authority and Personnel that that 888 00:33:52,610 --> 00:33:49,919 Congress intended for it is troubling to 889 00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:52,620 me it it seems like we've seen evidence 890 00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:55,200 that the Department of Defense is 891 00:33:59,450 --> 00:33:57,360 dragging its feet that they have to be 892 00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:59,460 drag Kicking and Screaming into 893 00:34:03,289 --> 00:34:01,200 supporting this investigation and 894 00:34:04,850 --> 00:34:03,299 getting to the bottom of it and I'm not 895 00:34:07,250 --> 00:34:04,860 encouraged by it and I suspect Dr 896 00:34:09,770 --> 00:34:07,260 Kirkpatrick has realized there are 897 00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:09,780 forces within the Pentagon within our 898 00:34:12,889 --> 00:34:11,520 government that don't want this to 899 00:34:15,230 --> 00:34:12,899 happen 900 00:34:17,690 --> 00:34:15,240 yeah I I don't know man I mean again I'm 901 00:34:20,570 --> 00:34:17,700 I'm of two minds about it I mean from 902 00:34:23,450 --> 00:34:20,580 from the from the one side I'm like I'm 903 00:34:25,550 --> 00:34:23,460 so glad that there's an open 904 00:34:27,050 --> 00:34:25,560 government program to study UFOs that we 905 00:34:28,669 --> 00:34:27,060 all knew about from the beginning that 906 00:34:31,490 --> 00:34:28,679 is telling us how they're handling it on 907 00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:31,500 the other side we know that there is so 908 00:34:36,589 --> 00:34:34,500 much that is not being told yet and it's 909 00:34:38,570 --> 00:34:36,599 just it's frustrating I I don't know if 910 00:34:40,369 --> 00:34:38,580 I were a whistleblower with classified 911 00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:40,379 information about these super secret 912 00:34:44,510 --> 00:34:43,260 programs and it's explosive uh I would 913 00:34:46,669 --> 00:34:44,520 have second thoughts about coming 914 00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:46,679 forward right now based on what he said 915 00:34:52,190 --> 00:34:49,679 maybe he's putting out the bat signal to 916 00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:52,200 them on some other wavelength that tells 917 00:34:56,270 --> 00:34:53,700 them to come on in and share information 918 00:34:58,490 --> 00:34:56,280 but I'd be really concerned about it the 919 00:35:01,370 --> 00:34:58,500 second thing is you and I know 920 00:35:03,950 --> 00:35:01,380 that the Air Force has been dragging its 921 00:35:06,109 --> 00:35:03,960 feet we know that there is a log Jam 922 00:35:09,290 --> 00:35:06,119 that some of the images that we have 923 00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:09,300 seen go to a certain spot and they don't 924 00:35:12,890 --> 00:35:11,280 go any further that they have not gone 925 00:35:15,470 --> 00:35:12,900 to Arrow they have not been kicked 926 00:35:17,930 --> 00:35:15,480 upstairs that people like Susan go or 927 00:35:20,569 --> 00:35:17,940 goth uh can't comment on them because 928 00:35:22,910 --> 00:35:20,579 she hasn't seen them that is a problem 929 00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:22,920 yeah okay I'm getting increasingly 930 00:35:29,930 --> 00:35:26,240 frustrated as we do this podcast because 931 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:29,940 I realized like [\h__\h] we're Reinventing 932 00:35:35,329 --> 00:35:32,640 the wheel here I mean 933 00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:35,339 there there's so much going on you know 934 00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,200 behind the scenes when it comes to the 935 00:35:41,930 --> 00:35:39,839 UFO thing that it's it just feels like 936 00:35:43,609 --> 00:35:41,940 they're Reinventing the wheel with these 937 00:35:45,170 --> 00:35:43,619 studies there is knowledge of I mean 938 00:35:47,150 --> 00:35:45,180 look just look back to your Russia 939 00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:47,160 reports that we just released an episode 940 00:35:52,849 --> 00:35:50,640 of they were aware that we had certain 941 00:35:55,609 --> 00:35:52,859 Satellite Systems dedicated to the study 942 00:35:58,370 --> 00:35:55,619 of UFOs and this was in the 80s so what 943 00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,380 you know did he not get the memo did he 944 00:36:01,609 --> 00:36:00,480 not get all this information so on one 945 00:36:03,770 --> 00:36:01,619 level I'm starting to get really 946 00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:03,780 frustrated because it is kind of a 947 00:36:07,310 --> 00:36:05,040 reinvention of the wheel but I think 948 00:36:09,170 --> 00:36:07,320 it's a necessary one I think that you 949 00:36:11,450 --> 00:36:09,180 know we have to start fresh we have to 950 00:36:13,310 --> 00:36:11,460 look at it fresh we can go back to the 951 00:36:15,530 --> 00:36:13,320 to the to the history books on this 952 00:36:17,210 --> 00:36:15,540 stuff but I think it's it's positive but 953 00:36:19,130 --> 00:36:17,220 it's a little frustrating well we know 954 00:36:21,290 --> 00:36:19,140 that there's a place where a lot of 955 00:36:23,210 --> 00:36:21,300 these images have been submitted and 956 00:36:24,770 --> 00:36:23,220 they never went any further yes we know 957 00:36:27,069 --> 00:36:24,780 what some of those images are yeah and 958 00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:27,079 they're pretty video damn spectacular 959 00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:30,300 that Dr Kirkpatrick and his team should 960 00:36:35,210 --> 00:36:32,760 be able to see him yeah look it would be 961 00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:35,220 baffling to me if if he did not have 962 00:36:39,230 --> 00:36:37,680 access to that information there's you 963 00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:39,240 know this is this is the whole thing 964 00:36:43,490 --> 00:36:41,280 with the UFO topic is we need scientific 965 00:36:45,530 --> 00:36:43,500 study we need to I I want it to be 966 00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:45,540 transparent like Arrow hopefully is 967 00:36:49,970 --> 00:36:48,480 being a forward-facing UFO program the 968 00:36:51,770 --> 00:36:49,980 last time we had a public UFO program 969 00:36:53,569 --> 00:36:51,780 was Project Blue Book so I just got 970 00:36:56,089 --> 00:36:53,579 higher hopes now well there was a 971 00:36:57,890 --> 00:36:56,099 non-public UFO program called OS app 972 00:36:59,870 --> 00:36:57,900 that we we've talked about before that 973 00:37:02,210 --> 00:36:59,880 you and I have reported on before let's 974 00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,220 let's use that as an example Dr 975 00:37:06,770 --> 00:37:04,320 Kirkpatrick is now what nine months in 976 00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:06,780 yeah he doesn't have the authority he 977 00:37:10,250 --> 00:37:08,400 needs he doesn't have the budget he 978 00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:10,260 needs he doesn't have the Staffing he 979 00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:14,160 needs by nine months in OSAP uh already 980 00:37:19,010 --> 00:37:16,619 had 50 full-time employees and they were 981 00:37:21,230 --> 00:37:19,020 out in the field investigating UFO cases 982 00:37:23,810 --> 00:37:21,240 they created the world's largest UFO 983 00:37:25,550 --> 00:37:23,820 database Dr Kirkpatrick has not seen 984 00:37:27,650 --> 00:37:25,560 that database he has not seen the 985 00:37:29,690 --> 00:37:27,660 reports that were produced by it more 986 00:37:31,550 --> 00:37:29,700 than a hundred different reports the 987 00:37:33,950 --> 00:37:31,560 fact that he has not had access to any 988 00:37:36,050 --> 00:37:33,960 of that is troubling to me well maybe he 989 00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:36,060 has and he just wants to start anew with 990 00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:37,920 his organization I don't know you know 991 00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:39,780 maybe he has seen it 992 00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:42,000 did you see uh some of the people did 993 00:37:45,050 --> 00:37:43,440 you recognize anybody who's in the 994 00:37:47,810 --> 00:37:45,060 audience that was a small little hearing 995 00:37:50,210 --> 00:37:47,820 room did you Dan I recognized a guy 996 00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,220 named Dan Dan is awesome he's a good guy 997 00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:52,320 produces great videos right he does so 998 00:37:57,170 --> 00:37:54,240 yeah on I think like Tick Tock and 999 00:37:59,150 --> 00:37:57,180 Twitter uh Dan does cool updates about 1000 00:38:00,829 --> 00:37:59,160 UFOs and you know it's look I really it 1001 00:38:02,510 --> 00:38:00,839 was so cool he decided I'm gonna get in 1002 00:38:04,250 --> 00:38:02,520 the audience I'm gonna actually go there 1003 00:38:06,410 --> 00:38:04,260 I'm gonna see it firsthand that's really 1004 00:38:08,030 --> 00:38:06,420 what it takes to report on this stuff is 1005 00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:08,040 to really be kind of boots on the ground 1006 00:38:12,589 --> 00:38:10,079 and and see it for yourself I saw a 1007 00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:12,599 couple other photos of some people I did 1008 00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:14,640 not recognize them in the audience it 1009 00:38:18,829 --> 00:38:16,800 was a small audience but at least one of 1010 00:38:20,810 --> 00:38:18,839 them had brought a little saucer that he 1011 00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:20,820 had made a flying saucer and there's a 1012 00:38:25,730 --> 00:38:23,700 shot of him showing it to Dr Kirkpatrick 1013 00:38:28,609 --> 00:38:25,740 and there's a look of incredulity on the 1014 00:38:29,930 --> 00:38:28,619 part of the of Kirkpatrick like why are 1015 00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:29,940 you showing me this thing you made in 1016 00:38:33,710 --> 00:38:32,400 your garage yeah well look it comes with 1017 00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:33,720 the territory it does come with the 1018 00:38:38,089 --> 00:38:35,520 territory look we're so we're also 1019 00:38:40,370 --> 00:38:38,099 fixated on this right like not not most 1020 00:38:42,349 --> 00:38:40,380 people are not dealing with you know 1021 00:38:44,089 --> 00:38:42,359 individuals directly involved with these 1022 00:38:46,130 --> 00:38:44,099 programs so there's this sense of like 1023 00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:46,140 you see something really powerful it 1024 00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:47,520 affects you man you get what you know 1025 00:38:52,490 --> 00:38:50,160 UFO disease you wanna like oh my gosh 1026 00:38:54,050 --> 00:38:52,500 I've got the best evidence ever in my 1027 00:38:55,730 --> 00:38:54,060 backyard with a camera and sometimes 1028 00:38:57,230 --> 00:38:55,740 it's not the best evidence or usually 1029 00:38:59,569 --> 00:38:57,240 it's not the best evidence but I 1030 00:39:01,910 --> 00:38:59,579 understand I understand the enthusiasm 1031 00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:01,920 for this because it's like everybody's 1032 00:39:05,450 --> 00:39:04,320 dancing around it is it true or is it 1033 00:39:08,030 --> 00:39:05,460 not true 1034 00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:08,040 why did they not call other Witnesses 1035 00:39:12,349 --> 00:39:10,560 you know why is Lou Elizondo not appear 1036 00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:12,359 before one of those committees we know 1037 00:39:17,089 --> 00:39:15,119 that Lou and Chris Mellon have met with 1038 00:39:19,130 --> 00:39:17,099 those committees over the last five or 1039 00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:19,140 six years almost six years now have 1040 00:39:22,670 --> 00:39:20,880 given them testimony we know that 1041 00:39:25,730 --> 00:39:22,680 they've brought people like Dave fraber 1042 00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:25,740 over to meet with Senate staff and 1043 00:39:30,530 --> 00:39:28,260 members elected members of Congress why 1044 00:39:32,750 --> 00:39:30,540 are those guys not uh they're testifying 1045 00:39:35,089 --> 00:39:32,760 right I guess it wasn't that kind of 1046 00:39:37,970 --> 00:39:35,099 party right I mean this was just really 1047 00:39:40,730 --> 00:39:37,980 like a budgetary and Authority check-in 1048 00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:40,740 saying hey how are you doing are do you 1049 00:39:46,190 --> 00:39:43,140 have all the resources you need so for 1050 00:39:48,770 --> 00:39:46,200 Arrow to study UFOs but I really think 1051 00:39:51,290 --> 00:39:48,780 that the next thing that we need in 1052 00:39:53,390 --> 00:39:51,300 order to really move the needle here is 1053 00:39:55,609 --> 00:39:53,400 to hear directly from people 1054 00:39:57,470 --> 00:39:55,619 for example like Commander favorite in 1055 00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:57,480 an open Congressional hearing how 1056 00:40:02,089 --> 00:39:59,520 amazing would that be you mentioned Lou 1057 00:40:04,190 --> 00:40:02,099 Elizondo he worked in the UFO program I 1058 00:40:07,130 --> 00:40:04,200 can only imagine people like Dr Colin 1059 00:40:09,770 --> 00:40:07,140 Kelleher Dr laketsky Jay Stratton people 1060 00:40:11,290 --> 00:40:09,780 that actually ran UFO programs for much 1061 00:40:13,790 --> 00:40:11,300 longer than Arrow has been around 1062 00:40:16,849 --> 00:40:13,800 wouldn't that be valuable open 1063 00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:16,859 Congressional testimony right I I think 1064 00:40:22,310 --> 00:40:19,740 that as this moves forward hopefully it 1065 00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:22,320 does that Congress should consider other 1066 00:40:27,890 --> 00:40:25,200 models so Senator Harry Reid as we know 1067 00:40:30,310 --> 00:40:27,900 secured 22 million dollars that funded 1068 00:40:33,230 --> 00:40:30,320 the OSAP program it became the biggest 1069 00:40:35,390 --> 00:40:33,240 UFO study that we know of in the history 1070 00:40:38,329 --> 00:40:35,400 of the US government they produced a 1071 00:40:40,970 --> 00:40:38,339 massive data warehouse of UFO cases a 1072 00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:40,980 hundred or so technical reports none of 1073 00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:42,480 that information has been made public 1074 00:40:46,910 --> 00:40:44,400 but they did it all in a very short 1075 00:40:49,970 --> 00:40:46,920 period of time the whole existence of 1076 00:40:52,970 --> 00:40:49,980 OSAP was 27 months we have a government 1077 00:40:55,849 --> 00:40:52,980 model that's nine months in that's 1078 00:40:58,430 --> 00:40:55,859 produced almost nothing and not not much 1079 00:41:01,730 --> 00:40:58,440 of anything so maybe as Congress moves 1080 00:41:03,890 --> 00:41:01,740 forward they should consider private uh 1081 00:41:06,410 --> 00:41:03,900 organizations that could do some of this 1082 00:41:08,930 --> 00:41:06,420 work if they had proper clearances I 1083 00:41:11,109 --> 00:41:08,940 mean in defense of error again okay so 1084 00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:11,119 the nine months 1085 00:41:16,250 --> 00:41:13,920 I'm just saying I feel for the guy man I 1086 00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:16,260 feel for Dr shark Patrick because 1087 00:41:20,210 --> 00:41:18,300 you know they were like allocated nine 1088 00:41:22,490 --> 00:41:20,220 months ago but how much time as they 1089 00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,500 have they really had they don't even 1090 00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:24,960 have the right authorities yet I really 1091 00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:27,599 hope that that they'll continue on this 1092 00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:28,560 road 1093 00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:30,480 proper scientific analysis of the 1094 00:41:33,770 --> 00:41:31,920 footage look a lot of it's not going to 1095 00:41:35,630 --> 00:41:33,780 be UFOs get rid of the balloons get rid 1096 00:41:37,250 --> 00:41:35,640 of the birds get rid of all that we are 1097 00:41:39,290 --> 00:41:37,260 interested in the machines of Unknown 1098 00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:39,300 Origin with Advanced capabilities that 1099 00:41:42,770 --> 00:41:41,160 fly with impunity that's what we're 1100 00:41:44,930 --> 00:41:42,780 interested in that's true because give 1101 00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:44,940 them a chance yeah okay all right I'll 1102 00:41:50,510 --> 00:41:47,280 back off that's fine I'll just say this 1103 00:41:52,250 --> 00:41:50,520 you know I see Dr Kirkpatrick sitting 1104 00:41:53,870 --> 00:41:52,260 there it does not look like he's having 1105 00:41:55,849 --> 00:41:53,880 a lot of fun 1106 00:41:58,370 --> 00:41:55,859 um you know I I don't know it probably 1107 00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:58,380 sounded like a really cool uh job title 1108 00:42:02,569 --> 00:42:00,240 I'm going to be in charge of Arrow I'm 1109 00:42:04,250 --> 00:42:02,579 going to investigate UFOs UAP I'm going 1110 00:42:05,810 --> 00:42:04,260 to get to the bottom of this that that's 1111 00:42:08,030 --> 00:42:05,820 really something cool to put on your 1112 00:42:09,710 --> 00:42:08,040 resume but he does not seem to be having 1113 00:42:12,290 --> 00:42:09,720 fun but the nature of the questions 1114 00:42:14,270 --> 00:42:12,300 posed by members of Congress and then 1115 00:42:16,130 --> 00:42:14,280 there's another hearing coming in June 1116 00:42:18,890 --> 00:42:16,140 that probably is going to be a little 1117 00:42:21,170 --> 00:42:18,900 more a little more a little nastier well 1118 00:42:23,569 --> 00:42:21,180 hold on you just stick we do not know 1119 00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:23,579 for sure it's coming in June dates are 1120 00:42:27,890 --> 00:42:25,500 moving targets I don't know how you know 1121 00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:27,900 that anymore allegedly well it's I think 1122 00:42:31,569 --> 00:42:29,280 it's a moving Target I think it's gonna 1123 00:42:34,130 --> 00:42:31,579 be moving past that anyway so so so 1124 00:42:36,290 --> 00:42:34,140 let's hope let's hope we have more 1125 00:42:38,810 --> 00:42:36,300 Congressional hearings let's hope that 1126 00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:38,820 we hear directly from program people 1127 00:42:42,650 --> 00:42:40,800 that worked in the programs maybe a 1128 00:42:44,210 --> 00:42:42,660 couple Witnesses who saw stuff that are 1129 00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:44,220 kind of irrefutable that have good 1130 00:42:48,410 --> 00:42:45,839 sensor data surrounding like man of 1131 00:42:50,270 --> 00:42:48,420 favor let's let's hope but it's a moving 1132 00:42:51,890 --> 00:42:50,280 Target a date I think we should all 1133 00:42:54,650 --> 00:42:51,900 fight for more Congressional hearings 1134 00:42:57,770 --> 00:42:54,660 with direct testimony from people that 1135 00:43:01,490 --> 00:42:57,780 worked in UFO programs that would be the 1136 00:43:04,010 --> 00:43:01,500 gold standard absolutely but we do know 1137 00:43:06,890 --> 00:43:04,020 uh that there are people in the house 1138 00:43:08,930 --> 00:43:06,900 who are flamethrowers who are not 1139 00:43:11,150 --> 00:43:08,940 patient who want to get to the bottom of 1140 00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,160 this and who are prepared to ask many 1141 00:43:17,809 --> 00:43:13,440 more pointed questions than what we have 1142 00:43:19,970 --> 00:43:17,819 heard so far oh yeah like 100 for sure 1143 00:43:22,370 --> 00:43:19,980 there are more pointed questions that 1144 00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:22,380 could be asked with yes or no answers 1145 00:43:26,510 --> 00:43:24,720 and I think we we will be getting that 1146 00:43:29,089 --> 00:43:26,520 soon I just don't want to put a date on 1147 00:43:32,030 --> 00:43:29,099 it but I know it's happening 1148 00:43:35,630 --> 00:43:32,040 um back to Dr Kirkpatrick so I feel for 1149 00:43:38,329 --> 00:43:35,640 him to some extent I feel that he is uh 1150 00:43:40,609 --> 00:43:38,339 trying to do a good job that he needs 1151 00:43:42,589 --> 00:43:40,619 more Authority that he needs a solid 1152 00:43:44,990 --> 00:43:42,599 budget that he needs the kind of staff 1153 00:43:46,730 --> 00:43:45,000 that he was promised and he doesn't have 1154 00:43:49,069 --> 00:43:46,740 any of those things so he's he's 1155 00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:49,079 plugging away he's written some papers 1156 00:43:53,390 --> 00:43:51,119 that are interesting with Dr Avi Loeb 1157 00:43:55,970 --> 00:43:53,400 and is trying to make a dent in this 1158 00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:55,980 problem but I suspect this is not as 1159 00:44:01,670 --> 00:43:58,880 much fun or as rewarding professionally 1160 00:44:04,970 --> 00:44:01,680 as he anticipated and I suspect that it 1161 00:44:07,609 --> 00:44:04,980 also has uh great pitfalls uh great 1162 00:44:10,190 --> 00:44:07,619 risks for his professional reputation to 1163 00:44:12,349 --> 00:44:10,200 suddenly become the UFO guy what job 1164 00:44:14,750 --> 00:44:12,359 does he get after this I have a 1165 00:44:16,970 --> 00:44:14,760 prediction I think he's going to leave I 1166 00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:16,980 think a year from now we're recording 1167 00:44:22,430 --> 00:44:20,640 this in April uh of 2023 a year from now 1168 00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:22,440 he will not be in that job 1169 00:44:27,710 --> 00:44:25,200 that's the George Knapp UFO crystal ball 1170 00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:27,720 like look whatever happens I hope that 1171 00:44:32,030 --> 00:44:30,480 they continue on task and I hope that as 1172 00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:32,040 they get more information that they'll 1173 00:44:35,450 --> 00:44:33,599 be more transparent with the public 1174 00:44:37,550 --> 00:44:35,460 because I think there's a lot lacking 1175 00:44:39,530 --> 00:44:37,560 there but maybe it's just because it all 1176 00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:39,540 happened so quick let's see what happens 1177 00:44:44,030 --> 00:44:41,940 next with arrow yeah I mean also we're 1178 00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:44,040 available to help them out we can show 1179 00:44:47,630 --> 00:44:45,599 them where some of this stuff is stashed 1180 00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:47,640 I mean have they ever seen a jellyfish 1181 00:44:52,490 --> 00:44:50,520 UFO for example George I don't trust 1182 00:44:54,530 --> 00:44:52,500 Arrow to do its job yet you know what I 1183 00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:54,540 mean that's the honest truth and if I 1184 00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:55,680 don't trust them to do their job yet 1185 00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:56,880 they got to earn that trust from 1186 00:45:01,490 --> 00:44:59,520 everybody me not even included they can 1187 00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:01,500 earn a lot of trust they'll get reports 1188 00:45:05,870 --> 00:45:03,900 I'm sure but the people that really have 1189 00:45:07,010 --> 00:45:05,880 worked in these programs they got to 1190 00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,020 know they're going to be okay so 1191 00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:09,839 hopefully uh hopefully Arrow does a good 1192 00:45:13,010 --> 00:45:11,280 job continues and earns trust with 1193 00:45:14,930 --> 00:45:13,020 people and I don't know man maybe they 1194 00:45:17,390 --> 00:45:14,940 will be receiving more more footage this 1195 00:45:19,790 --> 00:45:17,400 year I wish them luck uh we'll help them 1196 00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:19,800 if we can but they got a tough road to 1197 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:33,050 [Music] 1198 00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:37,490 never have so few had so much to tell 1199 00:45:42,890 --> 00:45:41,119 but could say so living 1200 00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:42,900 following us in a weaponized 1201 00:45:46,370 --> 00:45:44,760 presentation of Jeremy Corbell George 1202 00:45:48,530 --> 00:45:46,380 Knapp Dark Horse entertainment and 1203 00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:48,540 Cadence 13 Studios available now for